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选举团专家与观众对话(第5部分)

The Electoral College Experts Audience Dialogue (Part 5)
课程网址: http://videolectures.net/mitworld_debate_experts5/  
主讲教师: Robert Hardaway; John Fortier; Barnett Arnold I; Judith Best; Alan Natapoff; Paul Schumaker; Alexander Keyssar; Robert Bennett; Vikram Amar; Akhil Amar; Belenky Alexander S
开课单位: 麻省理工学院
开课时间: 2013-06-04
课程语种: 英语
中文简介:
在最后五届会议的最后一场辩论中,听众们站在了发言席上,讨论是保留还是放弃选举团制度。通过提问、回答和一般性讨论,小组成员进一步阐明了他们在主要会议议题上的立场。以下是由听众提问引起的讨论领域的简短列表:专家们围绕国家大众投票系统将如何影响少数群体展开讨论。朱迪丝·贝斯特和罗伯特·哈达威认为,摇摆州的少数民族在我们当前的体制中有优势,而一个改变将意味着失去这种影响力。罗伯特·贝内特、保罗·舒马赫和阿基尔·阿马尔对此有异议。约翰·福蒂尔、舒马赫、阿兰·纳塔波夫、维克拉姆和阿基尔·阿马尔讨论了全国性的民意投票是否会影响到动员选民组织和社区参与。福蒂尔在大选中看不到灵丹妙药,而舒马赫则看到了非常积极的后果。Akhil Amar认为,由于新技术使24/7投票成为可能,未来将有“比过去更紧密的选举”。纳塔波夫宣称,“简单的全国性投票会产生有害的激励,促使一个群体与另一个群体相互竞争。”一位听众对会议期间“否认第三方”发表了评论,他想知道选举制度的变化会如何影响可行的、可选举的第三方候选人的出现。亚历山大·凯撒指出,美国是世界上唯一一个20世纪没有新政党上台的国家。他说:“这有可能是因为我们的两个政党是如此的伟大。”其他小组成员指出多党选举的危险性,以及选举被抛入众议院的可能性。一些人建议立即进行决选。Akhil Amar引用了一项政治科学法,即“当你有一个办公室可供争夺时,通常会有两个政党在长期均衡中争夺它。”一位听众想知道外国在选举过程中会给美国带来什么样的好处。Natapoff声称,我们目前的制度基本上是议会制的,Akhil Amar反驳道,“我们的制度离议会很远,令人震惊。”Keyssar补充说,我们的选举团虽然像议会一样,但不是一个持续存在的机构。阿马尔认为,尽管我们有很多其他制度需要学习,但在联邦层面,除非这些制度在美国经过路考,证明是可行的,否则它们不会被采纳。如果美国通常只产生两个可行的候选人,而选举团处理此类选举的很好,为什么要转向一个受欢迎的VOTE?亚历山大贝伦基回应说,欧共体只有11个州可以选举总统。“如果在这些州投票率较低,而该国其他地区的投票率较高,可能会有一小部分受欢迎的选票将选出总统。”小组成员将额外的时间讨论彼此关于修改选举团的建议以及投票系统的其他变化,以及详细介绍了决选投票的工作原理。
课程简介: Audience members take the floor in this last of five sessions debating whether to retain or discard the Electoral College system. Through question, answer and general discussion, the panelists further elucidate their positions on the main conference topic. The following is a short list of discussion areas raised by audience questions: Panelists engage around how a national popular vote system would impact minority groups. Judith Best and Robert Hardaway believe that minorities in swing states have an advantage in our current system, and a change would mean losing that leverage. Robert Bennett, Paul Schumaker, and Akhil Amar dispute this. John Fortier, Schumaker, Alan Natapoff, and Vikram and Akhil Amar discuss whether a national popular vote would have the effect of mobilizing voter organization and participation at a community level. Fortier doesn’t see a panacea in the popular election, while Schumaker sees very positive consequences. Akhil Amar believes there will be “more close elections in the future than in the past,” due to 24/7 polling made possible by new technologies. Natapoff declares that “simple national voting creates pernicious incentives to play off one group against another.” An audience member comments on the “denigration of third parties” during the conference and wonders how a change in election systems might affect the emergence of viable, elect-able third party candidates. Alexander Keyssar notes that the U.S. is the only country in the world where no new political party has come to power in the 20th century. “It’s possible that’s because our two political parties are so magnificent…” he says. Other panelists point out the dangers of multiparty elections, and the possibility of elections being thrown into the House of Representatives. Some suggest adopting instant runoff elections. Akhil Amar cites a law of political science that “when you have one office up for grabs, you’re generally going to have two parties vying for it in long-term equilibrium.” One audience member wonders what foreign nations might offer the U.S. in terms of election process. Natapoff claims that our current system is essentially parliamentary, and Akhil Amar retorts “our system is so far from parliamentary as to be staggering.” Keyssar adds that our Electoral College, while like a parliament, is not an ongoing body. Amar believes that while we have much to learn from other systems, they won’t be adopted at the federal level unless “they’re road-tested in the states and proved to be workable.” If the U.S. generally produces only two viable candidates, and the Electoral College handles this kind of election well, why move to a popular vote? Alexander Belenky responds that with the EC, just 11 states can elect a president. “If in those states the turnout is low and the rest of the country’s turnout is high, it may be that a small percentage of the popular vote will elect the president.” The panelists devote additional time to discussing each other’s suggestions for modifying the Electoral College and other changes to the voting system, and discuss in detail how runoff voting works.
关 键 词: 全民投票系统; 即时径流选举; 多党选举; 政治学定律
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最后编审: 2020-05-22:吴雨秋(课程编辑志愿者)
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